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On one of the talking heads news programs yesterday, they had pro and con guests talking about the KXL
pipeline.
On the pro side, this guest actually had the nerve to say that us "greenies" were incorrect in saying
that the pipeline would have an environmental impact.
She said that the pipeline (itself) would have no impact.
I suppose she thinks we're stupid.
1- Laying the pipe would have impact. Construction roads for equipment, additional emissions, moving
soil around, etc.
2-More importantly, the pipeline, once built will not sit empty. Hello? Does she think that we'll building
it to not move the tar sands oil from point A to point B?
(No offense to the hammers of the world, but what a tool.)

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I missed this when it first came out (maybe you did too) so here's a link about the documentary; Watershed.

It speaks to the continuing drought (and our overuse of rivers) but it also speaks to the millions of gallons of water used yearly
for fracking wells.
http://watershedmovie.com/about/film/

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The link to the Weather Channel's new show Strangest Weather on Earth is supposed to be on their Facebook
page but it's not.
Anyway, they did an entire show on fracking caused earthquakes.

Oklahoma is having more quakes in recent years than California. The water they re-inject into the rock
formations are having major repercussions.
Some of their quakes are quite large too. 5-6 not just small ones.

This article asks-but I say yes.
http://www.npr.org/2...kes-in-oklahoma

http://www.msnbc.com...-fracking-study

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Shortpoet-GTD, on 09 December 2014 - 10:26 AM, said:

....an entire show on fracking caused earthquakes......The water they re-inject into the rock
formations are having major repercussions......http://www.npr.org/2...kes-in-oklahoma......http://www.msnbc.com...-fracking-study

    I think it's worth noting that it's fracking wastewater disposal wells that seem to be linked to the quakes, not the fracked wells themselves.  The NPR piece is pretty clear about that, the MSNBC piece less clear.  Since it's the wastewater disposal wells, not the actual fracked wells that are implicated, someone claiming that fracking hasn't been shown to be a cause of earthquakes would be technically correct. A couple of quotes from the NPR piece:  "And Oklahoma lives and dies by oil and gas"  and  "And it's a low-regulation state"

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still learning, on 09 December 2014 - 12:05 PM, said:

I think it's worth noting that it's fracking wastewater disposal wells that seem to be linked to the quakes, not the fracked wells themselves.  The NPR piece is pretty clear about that, the MSNBC piece less clear.  Since it's the wastewater disposal wells, not the actual fracked wells that are implicated, someone claiming that fracking hasn't been shown to be a cause of earthquakes would be technically correct. A couple of quotes from the NPR piece:  "And Oklahoma lives and dies by oil and gas"  and  "And it's a low-regulation state"

Sorry I wasn't clear enough.
"The water they re-inject into the rock formations are having major repercussions."
I should have said "wastewater" instead of using the word "re-inject"

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The Wall Street Journal; usually a right leaning, conservative paper has come out
AGAINST
the keystone pipeline.
Via Grist-
http://grist.org/cli...street-journal/

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Another story about leaking methane (&^$%$#&%) !!
Via The Guardian-
http://www.theguardi...ne-gas-plume-us

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Imo, these Texas earthquakes are the results of fracking.
http://www.wfaa.com/...texas/21352091/
They'll argue about it I'm sure. You decide.

They link the Oklahoma quakes to fracking. (40 fold-omg)

http://www.msnbc.com...-fracking-study

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Bakken oil fields documentary link-
http://www.midwesten...-field-workers/

http://www.usatoday....deaths/2149691/

r's say jobs; yeah for the undertaker.

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Fracking (air quality) monitors are to be installed in Texas.
Via Inside Climate News-

http://insideclimate...track-pollution

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Lot's of quakes in Oklahoma.................
http://earthquake.us...arthquakes/map/

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Oil giants are singing the blues over lost revenues due to falling prices. Poor babies.
If they're shuttering a few plants and laying off workers, how in the world can the gop keep pushing for the keystone xl project?
Isn't their tired, old lament always about jobs?

Article via the New York Times-
http://www.nytimes.c...&pgtype=article

(Another poor babies article about oil giants losing $$-bp)
http://www.nytimes.c...rgy-environment

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It's only on federal and Native American owned lands, but new rules for fracking.
Now, if we can get the rest; we'd be golden.

Via The Hill-
http://thehill.com/p...own-on-fracking

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James Osborn poured fracking waste-water into glasses, asking commissioners at a Nebraska
fracking meeting; "would you drink it?"
Via Think Progress-

http://thinkprogress...ays-frack-this/

https://www.youtube....h?v=m0HL4L6Pa-4

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Mega drought in California? Not to worry; plenty of H2O available for fracking.
Via Huffington Post/green-
http://www.huffingto..._n_6997324.html

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More fracking earthquakes in Oklahoma.
(My opinion; not stated as "fact" on the site.)
Via USGS-
http://earthquake.us...,"help":false}}

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#ActOnClimate is happening this weekend in Canada. People are standing in unison AGAINST the tar sands & pipelines.
Hurrah!
http://act-on-climat...m=a.ran.org_h1T

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Vegans-vegetarians beware-
frack water from chevron will soon water crops in California.
"The wastewater Chevron is selling flows, without municipal treatment
(though the oil products are removed), to 90 local farmers who spread it on their citrus,
nut and grape crops."

Via Newsweek-
http://www.newsweek....campaign=buffer

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alec (small letters; absolutely no respect for that organization) have worked their will into the Texas legislature
and want a ban on the ban of fracking. So far, governor abbott hasn't signed it (but probably will)

Denton (North of Fort Worth) put a ban on fracking previously.

$$$ but what they don't realize (or care about) is a large portion of that will be spent on doctors, hospital visits
and medicines by the people in that area from the water/air pollution.

Article via Eco Watch-
https://ecowatch.com...-fracking-bans/

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Heard on MSNBC's Ed Show; "the keystone pipeline may be on the ropes."
Why?
Because after 44 years of rule by the conservatives in Canada; people voted them OUT!

And the newly elected Democratic party want to address climate change.

http://www.bbc.com/n...canada-32604002