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[Shortpoet-GTD]

Market influences may come to the rescue sooner than regulators can decide on "how best to handle fracking"

Article via Earth Times with several links-
http://www.earthtime...ring-shale-gas/

And their piece, which states; (accurately, I might add) that shale gas is "worse than coal" for total life cycle emissions.
http://www.earthtime...-emissions/711/

[Dustoffer]

The shipment of all fossil fuels has gone up a whopping 4,117% in the past 6 years.  All from fracking, and kept secret from we the people, especially in those neighborhoods that get spills/leaks of the disgusting stuff.
There is a section of US population that only wants to profit big from it without giving a hoot about pollution, just like those who try for and get UNEARNED benefits, like some of the essentially non-combat people getting disability for BS lies.
I would sure like the country back like it was when I grew up.

[Dustoffer]

Q&A: Top Pipeline Safety Advocate on His 15-Year 'Bambi vs. Godzilla' Fight


'We’re really the only national group that focuses on pipeline safety. So how does Bambi stay alive in that environment?'

By Lisa Song, InsideClimate News

Jun 24, 2014

Carl Weimer speaking at the Pipeline Safety Trust's 2012 annual conference in New Orleans.
"Fifteen years ago this month, gasoline from a burst pipeline spilled into a Bellingham, Wash. creek and exploded, killing three boys: ten-year-olds Stephen Tsiorvas and Wade King, and 18-year-old Liam Wood. The tragedy opened the nation's eyes to dangers lurking in the labyrinth of pipelines underground and spurred Bellingham residents to launch SAFE Bellingham, a group that would later morph into America's first pipeline safety watchdog.
Front and center in the leadership of SAFE Bellingham was Carl Weimer. By 2003, when the Justice Department reached a settlement with Olympic Pipeline, Weimer had become so informed and passionate about pipeline safety that he was picked to lead the Pipeline Safety Trust, a nationally focused organization established with a $4 million endowment from the settlement.
At the time, the Trust's role in challenging the powerful oil and gas industry was described as "Bambi taking on Godzilla.""
http://insideclimate...-godzilla-fight

Instead of accelerating toward near zero emissions, the rich oil/fossil fuel barons have elicited the help of the greedy and ignorant and are accelerating us in the opposite direction toward a thermal maximum event of mass death of everything.

[Shortpoet-GTD]

Scroll down-about halfway down the page-left side;
our ongoing thread on tar sands/gas fracking.
http://paper.li/deep...sign/1326908805

[Shortpoet-GTD]

Found this link from Still Learning; one of our great contributors from another thread. Thanks SL.

Interesting; perhaps a bit alarming. Sink holes, earthquakes and tremors-oh my.
http://news.yahoo.co...-171737733.html

[Dustoffer]

Higher Cancer Rates and Tainted Local Foods Linked to Tar Sands Operations

Danielle Droitsch, Natural Resources Defense Council | July 8, 2014 11:55 am | Comments

"A new study released by two Alberta First Nations communities in partnership with the University of Manitoba reports that certain carcinogens released in tar sands operations are being found in high levels in local wildlife. The study also reports a higher incidence of cancer among study participants, many of whom work in the tar sands industry, adding to evidence that these local communities suffer from higher rates of cancer. "
http://ecowatch.com/...35ef80-85901709

Leave the rest in the ground!!!!

[Dustoffer]

I have seen large areas of drilling pads marring the landscape, our landscape;
Cowboys, hunters, and enviros team up to fight natural gas drilling

By Ben Adler
"If you take off in a plane from the airport in Aspen, Colo., you’ll soon see exactly what natural gas drilling looks like — and exactly why so many residents of the surrounding region, from ranchers to business owners to greens, are fighting to keep it in check."
http://grist.org/cli...l-gas-drilling/

[Shortpoet-GTD]

Dustoffer, on 11 July 2014 - 09:34 AM, said:

I have seen large areas of drilling pads marring the landscape, our landscape;
Cowboys, hunters, and enviros team up to fight natural gas drilling

By Ben Adler
"If you take off in a plane from the airport in Aspen, Colo., you’ll soon see exactly what natural gas drilling looks like — and exactly why so many residents of the surrounding region, from ranchers to business owners to greens, are fighting to keep it in check."
http://grist.org/cli...l-gas-drilling/

Maybe that's why they legalized pot; get high and ignore the issues.

[yoder]

Dustoffer, on 11 July 2014 - 09:34 AM, said:

I have seen large areas of drilling pads marring the landscape, our landscape;
Cowboys, hunters, and enviros team up to fight natural gas drilling

By Ben Adler
"If you take off in a plane from the airport in Aspen, Colo., you’ll soon see exactly what natural gas drilling looks like — and exactly why so many residents of the surrounding region, from ranchers to business owners to greens, are fighting to keep it in check."
http://grist.org/cli...l-gas-drilling/

I was just looking at this article.  Very interesting.

[Dustoffer]

Shortpoet-GTD, on 11 July 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

Maybe that's why they legalized pot; get high and ignore the issues.

  I don't think so.  I believe there is even more awareness now of the power of the people to change things.  There is more knowledge and many more victims speaking out in all sorts of media.  I doubt that they get high if they have to inhale carcinogens from fracking/drilling right in their yards, or old recreational BLM land.   The views are a ruin to look at, especially when you used to love the views, the Rocky Mountain Way.  Glad there are none around my house, then again, I planned it this way (remember I was/am a geology nut).
Our Udall/Bennet/Hickenlooper pretend to be an environmentalists at the same time they take money from the frackers, and overpopulaters.  I may just write myself in!!

[yoder]

I've noticed that some strange bedfellow have been teaming up against fracking all over the country.  It's wonderful that they can put aside their differences just long enough to speak out against the fracking industry.  I hope the fact that opposition is coming from so many different corners helps our bought and paid for congresscritters to pull their collective heads out.  Not holding my breath, but I do hope.

[Shortpoet-GTD]

Dustoffer, on 12 July 2014 - 09:35 AM, said:

I don't think so.  I believe there is even more awareness now of the power of the people to change things.  There is more knowledge and many more victims speaking out in all sorts of media.  I doubt that they get high if they have to inhale carcinogens from fracking/drilling right in their yards, or old recreational BLM land.   The views are a ruin to look at, especially when you used to love the views, the Rocky Mountain Way.  Glad there are none around my house, then again, I planned it this way (remember I was/am a geology nut).
Our Udall/Bennet/Hickenlooper pretend to be an environmentalists at the same time they take money from the frackers, and overpopulaters.  I may just write myself in!!

I was being factious. Type doesn't express the tone of voice.
How about a bumper sticker?
Smoke weed not fracked up air.

[Dustoffer]

Here is a good looking deal! For Coloradans, anyway.
Arise Music Festival: Uplifting the World Through Music and Action

Sponsored Content by ARISE Music Festival | July 9, 2014 3:48 pm | Comments

The 2nd Annual ARISE Music Festival kicks off Aug. 8 – Aug. 10. The 3-day festival will feature a selection of yoga and movement intensives each day, a mini documentary film festival, special guest presenters and activists, diverse interactive workshops, delicious food, local brews and fine craft vendors specializing in organic and natural products of all kinds.

The stellar music lineup includes Beats Antique, Galactic with special guests Chali2na and Lyrics Born, Grateful Grass featuring Keller Williams, Billy Nershi (String Cheese Incicent) and Reed Mathis, The Infamous Stringdusters, The Polish Ambassador, Groundation, Tribal Seeds, Nahko and Medicine for the People, The Everyone Orchestra featuring Steve Kimock and the return of Quixotic, among many other favorite performers.
“The music is like the fire… and we all gather around it to warm our souls” says Paul Bassis, producer of ARISE. “The intention of the festival is to facilitate and amplify that inspiration into real life action.”
http://ecowatch.com/...8fea9e-85901709

However, to me, not nearly HEAVY enough.  Unless, of course, ol' John Electriglide plays, like he does here many days.  Wall melting, mind tripping, Persian Rug patterns everywhere, acid blues rock metal.  About time to make another CD.

[Shortpoet-GTD]

Good info; thanks although not related to fracking.............

[Shortpoet-GTD]

By reading this piece, we now know that reuters thinks fracking is fine. (via Huffington Post)

"The climate activist group is one of several across the country that have led protests against
what it terms
"the toxic impacts of fracking" -
the oil and gas drilling technique that has helped the United States become the top natural gas producer in the world and opened the door to substantial U.S. gas exports."

Sounds like biased reporting to me.
http://www.huffingto...kushpmg00000048

[Shortpoet-GTD]

More fracking quakes in Oklahoma.
http://www.huffingto...tm_hp_ref=green

[yoder]

In North Dakota frack mining companies are calling their toxic waste spill into reservation drinking water a "salt water" spill.

Are these fracking executives 8 years old?  It's one thing to doubt their sincerity, humanity, morality and ethics, but if we have to start doubting their mental capacity...

[Shortpoet-GTD]

yoder, on 16 July 2014 - 08:11 AM, said:

In North Dakota frack mining companies are calling their toxic waste spill into reservation drinking water a "salt water" spill.

Are these fracking executives 8 years old?  It's one thing to doubt their sincerity, humanity, morality and ethics, but if we have to start doubting their mental capacity...

Obviously debbie doesn't have kids nor intends to in the future;
when she said-
"no evidence of an impact to the local water supply."
Or she just drinks beer...............oh wait, that's made with water.

[Shortpoet-GTD]

The koch brothers and their investments in dirty tar sands oil.
http://insideclimate...years-tar-sands

[Shortpoet-GTD]

Google and the Environmental Defense Fund have teamed up to map methane leaks in a few cities.
You can listen to the story via this NPR link-
http://www.npr.org/2...nge?ft=1&f=1025

Also this piece; they're speculating on the cause but most likely an explosion of natural
gas in the area caused this giant hole.


http://www.npr.org/b...he-theories-fly