"A plan to fast-track the stalled the Keystone XL pipeline was passed by a key committee in the U.S. House of
Representatives, as Republicans made yet another attempt to spur approval of the project.
In a decision last month that pleased environmental groups, Obama blocked TransCanada's $7 billion project,
citing the need for further review of its route as the line would have traversed sensitive lands and an aquifer in Nebraska."
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#TarSands #GasFracking.
Started by Hayden, Oct 20 2011 01:59 PM
553 replies to this topic
#124
Posted 08 February 2012 - 02:30 PM
Shortpoet-GTD, on 08 February 2012 - 03:37 AM, said:
I wonder if all the people that can set their faucets on fire are liberals, or just plain folks?
Water well contamination's have been well documented, so it's not a conspiracy or lies. It's a fact.
Fracking fluids contain over 600 chemicals, any one of which could contaminate water. But we
have over 600 chances to have contaminated water; thanks in large part to chaney/halliburton.
It could be all the people that are sick from this toxic brew are liberals, but I doubt it.
Water well contamination's have been well documented, so it's not a conspiracy or lies. It's a fact.
Fracking fluids contain over 600 chemicals, any one of which could contaminate water. But we
have over 600 chances to have contaminated water; thanks in large part to chaney/halliburton.
It could be all the people that are sick from this toxic brew are liberals, but I doubt it.
The argument from the oil and gas industry is that those things (like fallmable water) are naturally occuring, depending on where you live.
There have been instances like a water well on a ranch in Southeastern Colorado that made enough methane to run an industrial engine, and no well had been drilled for 15 miles in any direction. You don’t have to be in the O & G business very long until a farmer or rancher will tell you, “You need to lease my land. I know there is oil and gas here because I get it from my water well.” But you drill a well and they say, “you contaminated my water well, pay up.”
#125
Posted 08 February 2012 - 02:31 PM
No need, Paul and Gingrich have just obtained funding from Romney for a lifetime supply of bricks. They plan to throw them at each other until one of them proves how mature they are. And then Romney as the last one standing can push fully for fracking, which he sees as no problem at all.
#127
Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:57 PM
Omg-a republican that cares about us? But it's true.
"Ohio's top law enforcer says tougher environmental sanctions on polluters in the oil and gas industry and
required disclosure of the chemicals used in the drilling technique called fracking are needed to adequately
protect residents as shale exploration burgeons in the state.
In a Wednesday interview with The Associated Press, Republican Attorney General Mike DeWine called for
hiking civil penalties to
$10,000 a day from the current maximum of $20,000 per incident.
That would bring fines in line with states such as Pennsylvania, Colorado and Texas."
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"Ohio's top law enforcer says tougher environmental sanctions on polluters in the oil and gas industry and
required disclosure of the chemicals used in the drilling technique called fracking are needed to adequately
protect residents as shale exploration burgeons in the state.
In a Wednesday interview with The Associated Press, Republican Attorney General Mike DeWine called for
hiking civil penalties to
$10,000 a day from the current maximum of $20,000 per incident.
That would bring fines in line with states such as Pennsylvania, Colorado and Texas."
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#128
Posted 09 February 2012 - 04:10 PM
ConservativeGreen, on 08 February 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:
No need, Paul and Gingrich have just obtained funding from Romney for a lifetime supply of bricks. They plan to throw them at each other until one of them proves how mature they are. And then Romney as the last one standing can push fully for fracking, which he sees as no problem at all.
I'd have to bet that in this political atmosphere, if the Dems were running against a Republican incumbent in the White House, they would be falling all over themselves to glorify the pipeline. Well, unless Kucinich or Frank was running. My faith in the Dems is only slightly higher than my faith in the Republicans.
#129
Posted 10 February 2012 - 12:27 PM
Shortpoet-GTD, on 09 February 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:
Omg-a republican that cares about us? But it's true.
"Ohio's top law enforcer says tougher environmental sanctions on polluters in the oil and gas industry and
required disclosure of the chemicals used in the drilling technique called fracking are needed to adequately
protect residents as shale exploration burgeons in the state.
"Ohio's top law enforcer says tougher environmental sanctions on polluters in the oil and gas industry and
required disclosure of the chemicals used in the drilling technique called fracking are needed to adequately
protect residents as shale exploration burgeons in the state.
Yes, not all republicans are evil. But more important, this is a state effort. Regardless of what the fed may or may not do Ohio will do better. Providing it can survive the legislative process which tends to turn good ideas into bad laws. Nice to see leadership.
#131
Posted 11 February 2012 - 03:56 AM
"On Feb. 1, the House Natural Resources Committee approved a three-headed monster of an energy bill: drilling
in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, drilling off the California coast, and expansion of oil shale drilling.
The committee doesn’t bother with the facts of oil shale mining.
The committee also doesn’t bother with the economics of oil shale mining.
Rep. Douglas Lamborn (R-Colo.), the author of the oil shale bill, also doesn’t seem to care about the reactions of Coloradoans.
This water-gobbling bill is part of the terrible transportation bill now working its way through the House,
and the “worst transportation bill I’ve ever seen” (says Republican Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood).
Oil shale, Arctic drilling, and California offshore drilling are all years away from generating revenue, if ever, so sticking them
into a transport bill on the pretense that they’ll pay for roads defies credibility.
The Congressional Budget Office finds the obvious — a not-commercially feasible technology will generate no revenue.
National environmental groups have already generated thousands of signatures on hundreds of email petitions
telling senators to reject the transport bill.
No one is thanking Obama, Salazar, or the BLM for standing up to Big Oil."
http://grist.org/pol...paign=gristacct
in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, drilling off the California coast, and expansion of oil shale drilling.
The committee doesn’t bother with the facts of oil shale mining.
The committee also doesn’t bother with the economics of oil shale mining.
Rep. Douglas Lamborn (R-Colo.), the author of the oil shale bill, also doesn’t seem to care about the reactions of Coloradoans.
This water-gobbling bill is part of the terrible transportation bill now working its way through the House,
and the “worst transportation bill I’ve ever seen” (says Republican Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood).
Oil shale, Arctic drilling, and California offshore drilling are all years away from generating revenue, if ever, so sticking them
into a transport bill on the pretense that they’ll pay for roads defies credibility.
The Congressional Budget Office finds the obvious — a not-commercially feasible technology will generate no revenue.
National environmental groups have already generated thousands of signatures on hundreds of email petitions
telling senators to reject the transport bill.
No one is thanking Obama, Salazar, or the BLM for standing up to Big Oil."
http://grist.org/pol...paign=gristacct
#132
Posted 13 February 2012 - 02:29 PM
The #gop is still desperate to push through Keystone XL-go here to sign the petition to stop it.
http://www.foe.org/
http://www.foe.org/
#133
Posted 15 February 2012 - 04:56 AM
A side of this story not often reported, transcanada taking people's property from them via eminent domain. 
"A coalition of environmentalists, conservative property rights activists and landowners are mounting a full court press against TransCanada in an attempt to derail the oil company's attempts to build the controversial Keystone XL pipeline in Texas.
On Monday, they won a small victory when a Lamar County judge issued a temporary restraining order against
the company's plans to do construction work on a farm near Paris, Texas.
Debra Medina, a property rights activist, has counted 89 cases so far in Texas where TransCanada had exercised
eminent domain, she said.
The company cites the pipeline's status as a "common carrier" under Texas law as the reason for its ability to
use governmental power to take land.
In Lamar County, the pipeline company took Julia Trigg Crawford's farm by eminent domain."
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"A coalition of environmentalists, conservative property rights activists and landowners are mounting a full court press against TransCanada in an attempt to derail the oil company's attempts to build the controversial Keystone XL pipeline in Texas.
On Monday, they won a small victory when a Lamar County judge issued a temporary restraining order against
the company's plans to do construction work on a farm near Paris, Texas.
Debra Medina, a property rights activist, has counted 89 cases so far in Texas where TransCanada had exercised
eminent domain, she said.
The company cites the pipeline's status as a "common carrier" under Texas law as the reason for its ability to
use governmental power to take land.
In Lamar County, the pipeline company took Julia Trigg Crawford's farm by eminent domain."
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#135
Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:59 PM
yoder, on 15 February 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:
When local and federal government become little more than hired muscle for corporate interests, then the US has become a banana republic.
Are we there yet?
Are we there yet?
#136
Posted 15 February 2012 - 05:43 PM
"Mitch McConnell claimed recently that the Keystone XL pipeline "Doesn't require a PENNY of our
tax payer money."
Refineries receiving the Keystone Xl tar sands oil will receive at least 1 billion in taxpayer subsides.
mcconnell has taken 1. 5 million from the fossil fuel industry.
#keystonefraud
http://front.moveon....rep=8&rc=tw.fol
tax payer money."
Refineries receiving the Keystone Xl tar sands oil will receive at least 1 billion in taxpayer subsides.
mcconnell has taken 1. 5 million from the fossil fuel industry.
#keystonefraud
http://front.moveon....rep=8&rc=tw.fol
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:01 PM
what law enables the billion dollar subsidy?
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:06 PM
And is the New Scientist article correct in it's statement that the dangers of Fracking have been exaggerated?
#139
Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:19 PM
Shortpoet-GTD, on 15 February 2012 - 05:43 PM, said:
"Mitch McConnell claimed recently that the Keystone XL pipeline "Doesn't require a PENNY of our
tax payer money."
Refineries receiving the Keystone Xl tar sands oil will receive at least 1 billion in taxpayer subsides.
mcconnell has taken 1. 5 million from the fossil fuel industry.
#keystonefraud
http://front.moveon....rep=8&rc=tw.fol
tax payer money."
Refineries receiving the Keystone Xl tar sands oil will receive at least 1 billion in taxpayer subsides.
mcconnell has taken 1. 5 million from the fossil fuel industry.
#keystonefraud
http://front.moveon....rep=8&rc=tw.fol
The oily mafia has done an exemplary job of wrapping itself in the flag when it suits them, begging hat in hand when it suits them, stealing when it suits them, killing when it suits them. The hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars that the oily mafia has extorted have returned only pennies on the dollar back to the US economy.
They are in the top 5 of corporate leaches, sucking the life out of the US. Once the country has been sucked dry and is lying dead by the side of the road, they will slither on to the next victim.
#140
Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:43 PM
yoder, on 16 February 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:
The oily mafia has done an exemplary job of wrapping itself in the flag when it suits them, begging hat in hand when it suits them, stealing when it suits them, killing when it suits them. The hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars that the oily mafia has extorted have returned only pennies on the dollar back to the US economy.
They are in the top 5 of corporate leaches, sucking the life out of the US. Once the country has been sucked dry and is lying dead by the side of the road, they will slither on to the next victim.
They are in the top 5 of corporate leaches, sucking the life out of the US. Once the country has been sucked dry and is lying dead by the side of the road, they will slither on to the next victim.
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