We (environmentalists/greenies) are doing our level best to reduce our emissions and
through this website; make other people more aware of the issues that emissions cause.
And yet; here we go again. Another corporation (let's not forget their people-ARGH!)
cheat and lie and install "defeat" software into their models; so they won't have to meet
USA standards.
This is disgusting and imo, criminal.
Of sure, Germany touts it's renewables and says "Look at all we're doing; why aren't you?"
while in the background, they're pulling these stunts. Shell game? You bet.
Mistake? Nope.
INTENTIONAL.
Article via NPR news-
http://www.npr.org/s...ign=environment
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Volkswagen uses cheat "defeat" devise=more air pollution.
Started by Shortpoet-GTD, Sep 20 2015 04:09 AM
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#1
Posted 20 September 2015 - 04:09 AM
#2
Posted 20 September 2015 - 07:18 AM
Ugly stuff.
NY Times says possible total penalty to VW of $18 billion. See http://www.nytimes.c...tware.html?_r=0
Wonder which other manufacturers have done something similar?
NY Times says possible total penalty to VW of $18 billion. See http://www.nytimes.c...tware.html?_r=0
Wonder which other manufacturers have done something similar?
#3
Posted 21 September 2015 - 03:14 PM
still learning, on 20 September 2015 - 07:18 AM, said:
Ugly stuff.
NY Times says possible total penalty to VW of $18 billion. See http://www.nytimes.c...tware.html?_r=0
Wonder which other manufacturers have done something similar?
NY Times says possible total penalty to VW of $18 billion. See http://www.nytimes.c...tware.html?_r=0
Wonder which other manufacturers have done something similar?
As for other car makers; it's lousy air bags, sticking petals.........the list of what they don't tell the consumers
is long.
Their thinking remains the same. Paying off a few lawsuits is cheaper than fixing the problem. In their minds,
people dying is not cause for concern. Hurting their bottom line is.
Pathetic.
#4
Posted 24 September 2015 - 02:44 PM
Every time I read another article about this; I seethe (if that's a word).
My electric/gas is minimal; on purpose to save emissions.
I recycle everything I possibly can; I donate older stuff rather than just tossing it; I try to buy products
with less packaging...........
and then I read these articles and I think; why should I bother?
It almost makes me physically ill that a multi-million corporation would do this
ON PURPOSE!
(Tearing my hair out smiley icon goes here_____________)
"Firstly, there is the sheer genius and ‘innovation’ required to mastermind the technology which tricked American regulators for so long.
Someone in or close to Volkswagen devised a
sophisticated software algorithm so that a car could automatically detect when it was undergoing an emissions test. This would trigger NOx reduction technology; but only during when the car’s emissions were being tested.
In real life driving conditions, the cars involved are emitting up to 40 times more NOx than during the test cycle.
Secondly, there is the scale of how the so-called “defeat device” was rolled out:
over 11 million vehicles have already been implicated, with experts estimating that the trickery
has caused an extra
1 million tonnes of air pollution every year.
Since the scandal broke, Volkswagen has seen its share value fall by about £25 billion, or around a third."
Via Friends of the Earth Scotland Blog-
http://www.blog.foe-..._medium=twitter
My electric/gas is minimal; on purpose to save emissions.
I recycle everything I possibly can; I donate older stuff rather than just tossing it; I try to buy products
with less packaging...........
and then I read these articles and I think; why should I bother?
It almost makes me physically ill that a multi-million corporation would do this
ON PURPOSE!
(Tearing my hair out smiley icon goes here_____________)
"Firstly, there is the sheer genius and ‘innovation’ required to mastermind the technology which tricked American regulators for so long.
Someone in or close to Volkswagen devised a
sophisticated software algorithm so that a car could automatically detect when it was undergoing an emissions test. This would trigger NOx reduction technology; but only during when the car’s emissions were being tested.
In real life driving conditions, the cars involved are emitting up to 40 times more NOx than during the test cycle.
Secondly, there is the scale of how the so-called “defeat device” was rolled out:
over 11 million vehicles have already been implicated, with experts estimating that the trickery
has caused an extra
1 million tonnes of air pollution every year.
Since the scandal broke, Volkswagen has seen its share value fall by about £25 billion, or around a third."
Via Friends of the Earth Scotland Blog-
http://www.blog.foe-..._medium=twitter
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