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Shortpoet-GTD, on 31 July 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

Of course; worldwide-sadly.

Why sadly?
I've posted this before.
We buy groceries on line - but not from ASDA although we could.
The small truck that delivcers them does 20-30 trips a day thus potentially saving up to 30 car trips a day - and the consequent fossil fuel consumption associated with that. The plastic bags are taken back for recycling.

We order most things on line. They get delivered by a parcel service which does the rounds rather than individual drops, again fuel savings.So all of that can be serviced directly from warehouses rather than the than the warehouse, retail outlet, final customer route.

Yes, it would logically result in the decline of the retail outlet. Perhaps even their demise*. And the requirement to heat, light, operate chilled and frozen sections. Not to mention the capital sosts of building and providing infrastructure services. Thus reduce their energy footprint, Is that such a bad thing?

Return them to green belt land even? Or just not use it in the first place maybe?

*Yes, there will probably continue to be a need for at least some specialist and convenience stores. If we run out of milk for example, I can be at our local in less than five minutes walk.

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Besoeker, on 31 July 2014 - 09:38 PM, said:

Why sadly?

Not against on-line shopping; just wm.

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Shortpoet-GTD, on 01 August 2014 - 04:05 AM, said:

Not against on-line shopping; just wm.

Why particularly Walmart?
Not say, Kroger?

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Back to topic; thanks.

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Besoeker, on 02 August 2014 - 09:36 AM, said:

Your topic was Walmart.
Why isn't on topic to compare it's credentials with those of another retail chain?
It would seem an entirely logical and apposite point and germane to the discussion in hand.

Because a small chain like kroger doesn't compare to the octopus giant/worldwide domination of wm.
They could be a force for good across the planet and yes; they have made some small steps in the right
direction towards sustainability.
But their "buy everything you can find made in china" (my quote-not theirs) mindset, their treatment
of vendors across the globe, their pittance pay to their workers in the US and other markets as well,
their massive footprint (parking lots, buildings, warehouses, truck shipping, etc.) and their millions
of dollars in donations to the wrong party still leave a bad taste in my mouth.
I think most would agree.
We are not fans.
One of their small steps-
"Walmart has done (89 megawatts of capacity at 215 locations as of last fall)"

Via Mother Jones
http://www.motherjon...emand-utilities

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Besoeker, on 02 August 2014 - 12:50 PM, said:

From your link:


Isn't that a positive?

If you want to be a fan of wm; that's your prerogative. I won't argue the point. Yes it's a positive; albeit tiny.

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The walmart heirs are actively giving money to alec and americans for prosperity; both organizations that are
anti renewable energy.

"The Waltons are funding nearly two dozen organizations working to roll back renewable energy policies, while a Walton-owned company is pushing for regulations aimed at hindering the growth of rooftop solar power."
http://www.ilsr.org/walton-report/

http://www.dailykos....op-solar-power#

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wm has lot's of solar on their facilities but they don't want us to have it on ours.
Via Climate Desk-

http://climatedesk.o...t-oppose-solar/

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Oooooh Ahhhh; folks have been going on and on about wm solar installs. Whoop-tie do; not so much.

"3 percent of Walmart’s U.S. power is supplied by its renewable energy projects and
special green power purchases, according to data the company submits to the EPA’s Green Power Partnership.
And only one-third of that 3 percent comes from Walmart’s rooftop solar and
other onsite installations.
Walmart is in fact a massive consumer of coal-fired electricity. The company uses more electricity to power its network of U.S. retail operations and distribution centers than the residents of Alaska, Delaware, Hawaii, Maine, Rhode Island, and Vermont combined.
Full article via Grist-
http://grist.org/bus...ppy-solar-talk/

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Urban sprawl; walmart style.
Via Grist-
http://grist.org/bus...building-spree/