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Dustoffer, on 20 May 2014 - 10:28 AM, said:
1.) Nissan Harvests Solar Power With World’s First Large-Scale Energy Storage System
Brandon Baker | May 13, 2014 4:39 pm | Comments
"Cars have long been Nissan’s primary business, but the company is looking for alternative uses for its electric vehicle (EV) batteries.
Along with Sumitomo Corp. and seven other companies, Nissan has unveiled 4R Energy, a joint venture using 16 lithium-ion batteries from EVs to store a solar farm’s power output help monitor energy fluctuations. The energy comes from Hikari-no-Mori, or “Forest of Light,” a solar farm with 36,000 solar panels on the man-made island of Yumeshima in western Japan’s city of Osaka."
http://ecowatch.com/...storage-system/
2.) Texas Tackles Electricity Storage
Enlarge photo by: Kate Galbraith
"Dozens of gray compartments, lined neatly in rows, inhabit a box-like concrete building on the edge of the impoverished border town of Presidio. The only sound, aside from occasional clanking, is the whirring of air-conditioners to keep the compartments cool.
This $25 million contraption is the largest battery system in the United States — locals have dubbed it “BOB,” for Big Ole Battery. It began operating earlier this year, and it is the latest mark of the state’s interest in a nascent but rapidly evolving industry: the storage of electricity."
http://www.texastrib...ricity-storage/
Of course there is the fact of thousands of homes and businesses with their own various battery systems of long use, like my house for 16 1/2 years.
3.)Another battery blueprint for alternative energy;
https://www.sciencen....6acee-93287133
Excerpt;
"A new battery that relies on cheap organic molecules could help stockpile energy from renewable sources such as solar and wind power for use on cloudy and breezeless days.
Scientists have grappled with ways to bank power from intermittent energy sources because municipal power grids demand a continuous flow.
The new battery relies on quinones, common chemicals found in many forms of life that help hold energy for later use, Harvard researchers report in the Jan. 9 Nature. Previous designs of similar batteries have used metal compounds, which can be expensive, rather than quinones.
The device is a type of flow battery, in which two separated liquids pass in and out of a cell with electrodes. A membrane in the middle of the cell prevents the two solutions from mixing but allows ions to travel between them. To charge the battery, electricity causes a quinone-carrying liquid to accept electrons from the current and protons from the other liquid, containing bromide. The liquids then flow out of the cell and into storage containers. To extract energy from the battery, the liquids pass back though the cell and undergo the reverse chemical reaction."
4.) Cheaper green energy storage solution invented by Calgary profs
[img]https://s2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/IG6s1HgWcK7zYFA5VpYiYw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9Zml0O2g9NDU-/http://l.yimg.com/os/153/2012/07/18/cbclogo-sm-sharp-175812-jpg_045904.jpg[/img]CBC – Fri, 29 Mar, 2013
https://ca.news.yaho...-181630427.html
I see no real storage problem for alternative non-emissions energy. Great for areas with enough wind, solar, wave, tidal, and other hydro, but still needing a large battery bank. Modular Gen IV is for everywhere else, even replacing diesels on big ships, along with sails, wind generators, and solar electric.
ANYTHING to lower total HGHGs, and ANYTHING that helps absorb HGHGs, is needed, all within a decade, installed and running!
https://www.youtube....h?v=qlTA3rnpgzU
YOWZA!!!
Brandon Baker | May 13, 2014 4:39 pm | Comments
"Cars have long been Nissan’s primary business, but the company is looking for alternative uses for its electric vehicle (EV) batteries.
Along with Sumitomo Corp. and seven other companies, Nissan has unveiled 4R Energy, a joint venture using 16 lithium-ion batteries from EVs to store a solar farm’s power output help monitor energy fluctuations. The energy comes from Hikari-no-Mori, or “Forest of Light,” a solar farm with 36,000 solar panels on the man-made island of Yumeshima in western Japan’s city of Osaka."
http://ecowatch.com/...storage-system/
2.) Texas Tackles Electricity Storage
- by Kate Galbraith
- Nov. 7, 2010
Enlarge photo by: Kate Galbraith
"Dozens of gray compartments, lined neatly in rows, inhabit a box-like concrete building on the edge of the impoverished border town of Presidio. The only sound, aside from occasional clanking, is the whirring of air-conditioners to keep the compartments cool.
This $25 million contraption is the largest battery system in the United States — locals have dubbed it “BOB,” for Big Ole Battery. It began operating earlier this year, and it is the latest mark of the state’s interest in a nascent but rapidly evolving industry: the storage of electricity."
http://www.texastrib...ricity-storage/
Of course there is the fact of thousands of homes and businesses with their own various battery systems of long use, like my house for 16 1/2 years.
3.)Another battery blueprint for alternative energy;
https://www.sciencen....6acee-93287133
Excerpt;
"A new battery that relies on cheap organic molecules could help stockpile energy from renewable sources such as solar and wind power for use on cloudy and breezeless days.
Scientists have grappled with ways to bank power from intermittent energy sources because municipal power grids demand a continuous flow.
The new battery relies on quinones, common chemicals found in many forms of life that help hold energy for later use, Harvard researchers report in the Jan. 9 Nature. Previous designs of similar batteries have used metal compounds, which can be expensive, rather than quinones.
The device is a type of flow battery, in which two separated liquids pass in and out of a cell with electrodes. A membrane in the middle of the cell prevents the two solutions from mixing but allows ions to travel between them. To charge the battery, electricity causes a quinone-carrying liquid to accept electrons from the current and protons from the other liquid, containing bromide. The liquids then flow out of the cell and into storage containers. To extract energy from the battery, the liquids pass back though the cell and undergo the reverse chemical reaction."
4.) Cheaper green energy storage solution invented by Calgary profs
[img]https://s2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/IG6s1HgWcK7zYFA5VpYiYw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9Zml0O2g9NDU-/http://l.yimg.com/os/153/2012/07/18/cbclogo-sm-sharp-175812-jpg_045904.jpg[/img]CBC – Fri, 29 Mar, 2013
https://ca.news.yaho...-181630427.html
I see no real storage problem for alternative non-emissions energy. Great for areas with enough wind, solar, wave, tidal, and other hydro, but still needing a large battery bank. Modular Gen IV is for everywhere else, even replacing diesels on big ships, along with sails, wind generators, and solar electric.
ANYTHING to lower total HGHGs, and ANYTHING that helps absorb HGHGs, is needed, all within a decade, installed and running!
https://www.youtube....h?v=qlTA3rnpgzU
YOWZA!!!
We will get there.
We have some way to go.
As far as I can tell, BoB at 4MW is the only one that's quantified. And it's operational.
All good stuff.
And, at the risk of being lambasted again for sounding sounding negative, it really isn't a lot in utility terms.
For scale, the capacity of a couple of medium sized wind turbines is about that and there are some that exceed this as a single units.
A Texas solar plant mentioned above is 150MW capacity. And another of 290MW here or on the solar thread.
We seriously need storage at utility scale capacity.
