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[Shortpoet-GTD]

GloFish (dot com) are selling neon colored fish in shades of green, yellow, red...

Glow in the dark cats? They're here.

Cloning and other weirdness done to dogs here.

And Yoder (the sheep herder) you probably don't want to read this piece either...
Glow in the dark sheep.

This is soooooooo wrong, imo.

What do you folks think?

[still learning]

Shortpoet-GTD, on 01 May 2013 - 04:46 AM, said:

What do you folks think?

Bad journalism. Mostly.

Note that the animals flouresce when illuminated by ultraviolet light.  They don't glow on their own.  They don't do what a firefly does.
My fingernails flouresce a little when illuminated with ultraviolet.  So do other people's nails.

Near as I can tell, nobody is claiming that the animals are harmed or are harmful.


I don't understand the "sooooooo wrong" reaction, but I'm not surprised.
Maybe it's because i took a genetics course some years ago that I'm not put off by the idea.

[Shortpoet-GTD]

Just because we can doesn't mean we should is my opinion on it.
I'm not in favor of cloning either, let alone injecting animals with genes from another species.
It's not ours to decide.

[still learning]

Shortpoet-GTD, on 01 May 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

.....It's not ours to decide.

Seems to me your position is "If God (or nature) did didn't, then it shouldn't be done."

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still learning, on 01 May 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

Seems to me your position is "If God (or nature) did didn't, then it shouldn't be done."

Pretty much, although it's nature for me.
Many things obviously can be advanced with man's help, diseases, etc. but for me, this is taking it too far.
You disagree, that's fine.

[Phil]

Did you read about the glow in the dark plants?  They do indeed glow, they were even positing replacing street lights with them.  They claimed it wasn't an environmental danger since generating the light takes a lot of energy from the plant and thus weakens it.  Their goal seems to be generating night lighting without power, an environmental plus.

If they could clone lungs all three of my sisters would still be alive, I'm all for the research.

[Besoeker]

Phil, on 06 May 2013 - 09:47 PM, said:

If they could clone lungs all three of my sisters would still be alive, I'm all for the research.

I too, am all for research.
How we use it needs consideration.
Dolly was an interesting case.

[Phil]

Unfortunately the price of freedom is someone will find a way of abusing it.  As is often said freedom comes with responsibility, I hope scientists will act responsibly but know odds are that somewhere, someone will indeed not.

[Besoeker]

Phil, on 06 May 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

Unfortunately the price of freedom is someone will find a way of abusing it.  As is often said freedom comes with responsibility, I hope scientists will act responsibly but know odds are that somewhere, someone will indeed not.

Totally agree.

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Phil, on 06 May 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

Unfortunately the price of freedom is someone will find a way of abusing it.  As is often said freedom comes with responsibility, I hope scientists will act responsibly but know odds are that somewhere, someone will indeed not.

Exactly.
That was my point of the thread.
Of course I'm for research, that's a no-brainer.

But we have already seen mans interference with nature gone haywire numerous times. Africanized  bees
for instance, and bringing a certain species of frogs to the islands of Hawaii for insect control. Both failed and
now we suffer the consequences.

[Phil]

Not to mention pythons in the everglades, wild boar all over the place, scotch broom, lily pads, frankenfish, Chinese Carp, zebra muscles, etc.!

[Besoeker]

Anyone old enough to have seen Myxomatosis first hand?
Horrible.

[Shortpoet-GTD]

Besoeker, on 07 May 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

Anyone old enough to have seen Myxomatosis first hand?
Horrible.

For those that don't know (I didn't)-
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Myxomatosis

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Phil, on 07 May 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

frankenfish

You mean this one?


Marge cooked it up for Mr. Burns when Homer had him over for supper.

[Besoeker]

Shortpoet-GTD, on 07 May 2013 - 02:33 PM, said:

For those that don't know (I didn't)

Then I have added some to your store of knowledge.....:

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Besoeker, on 07 May 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Then I have added some to your store of knowledge.....:

You bet.
We're all here to help educate the masses. It is after all, the world wide web.

[Besoeker]

Shortpoet-GTD, on 07 May 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

You bet.
We're all here to help educate the masses.

We are the masses.
Suggesting that we are above "them" and can educate them seems to me to be rather patronising.

[Besoeker]

Besoeker, on 08 May 2013 - 11:49 AM, said:

We are the masses.
Suggesting that we are above "them" and can educate them seems to me to be rather patronising.

Oh dear!
I seem to have ruffled someone's feathers.

[Shortpoet-GTD]

Besoeker, on 08 May 2013 - 09:16 PM, said:

Oh dear!
I seem to have ruffled someone's feathers.

Debating an issue is fine, but what many members here are finding, is that you argue over every single post,
and sometimes, every word.
It's dreary.

[Phil]

Perhaps a better phrase would be "we are all here to educate each other".   I think that's valid.