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#41 eds

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:52 PM

NH had a Brown Christmass(No Snow) and today we are getting the first real snow, except for an Ice Storm back in Oct of last year.
. . . The Weather man says it will snow for 30 hours, and only add up to 5 - 12 inches.
. . . hardly worth talking about, but it's about all we have for the whole season.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 07:27 PM

Today, Southeast Shoreline of CT ... Hmmmm, Lessee ...

Gloomy. Windy.
Gloomy. Windy.  We had rain.
Gloomy. Windy.  We had icy rain.
Gloomy. Windy.  We had sleet.
Gloomy. Windy.  We had snow.
Gloomy. Windy.  We had wintry mix.
Gloomy. Windy.  High 41, now at the low of 30.
Gloomy. Windy.

Yuck.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 03:54 PM

Jim Cantore actually said the words-climate change
when referring to the storms today that wrecked so many lives with EF4 tornadoes.
http://www.msnbc.msn...32619/#46580650

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 04:59 PM

Hi Folks my name is Jeff Moore, I am the other half of E3 Wise- Lois is the better half, but I try to hold my own.  Anyway I did not even know about this tread until today, I want to interject something about weather. Here in South Florida we have been having the hottest winter on record.  It’s been in the mid 80’s for weeks in February and now into March.

You might think this is good but it really is not, so please don’t be jealous.  Normal summers here are brutal and they have been getting worse for the last 15 years. Now it seems the winter also. That means that there will probably be record sea temperatures this hurricane season in the Gulf of Mexico and southern Atlantic.

This winter has been warm all over the US, late or little snow, which will of course affect the spring melt and river runoff. Meanwhile Europe is having a colder than normal winter and Alaska, well they are having record snowfall and storms.  Finally we have tornados in the Midwest in February and March.

So what’s my point, Lois and I have been attending climate conferences for years through NREL and Environmental Defense and every year we wonder how long it will take people to notice.

Well the weather is getting weirder and weirder now I read Jim Cantore said something about climate change being linked to the tornadoes.

Well duh dude, you think.

Take a minute to compare the average temperatures where every you live for the last thirty years and guess what, I think you will find that the earth is warming, who would a thunk it.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:06 AM

View PostE3 wise, on 02 March 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

Well the weather is getting weirder and weirder now I read Jim Cantore said something about climate change being linked to the tornadoes.

Well duh dude, you think.
Actually, I applaud his guts on speaking those "dreaded" words;

considering the weather channel is owned by bain capital aka mitt romney- :angry:

a climate change denier, so speaking out against the folks that employ you can be treacherous, but he did it anyway. B)

That, imo, is the problem with so many mass media outlets; they're owned by murdoch or other big money
types that are also deniers.
Speaking "truth to power" isn't easy, and not many do.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 03:46 PM

A little late for this one. Three-quarters of the state of New South Wales is either under water now or is expected to be very soon. This flooding has never been seen before in terms of flood levels and duration. The town of Broken Hill had a year’s annual rainfall in three days recently. Towns and cities that haven't been flooded before are being flooded now. Victoria is currently being flooded, Queensland's south was being flooded a few weeks ago - same places as before plus a few more. Western Sydney's dam has just tipped its load - and more's a coming. Bushfires in Western Australia's south and the same flooding in the north. Earthquakes (still!) in Christchurch, New Zealand. New Zealanders have been arriving here permanently at the rate of 1000 a month ever since the earthquakes started, maybe a year ago now. Forced evacuations in both New South Wales and some parts of Victoria.

Climate change not happening? Well, something's going on!

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:43 PM

tri-n-b-helpful is right about the flooding in Australia wow thats wild.


I did some research to check on the number of tornado’s in the United States since 2000.  Many climatologists have said that climate change could increase the number of tornados and cause larger EF 3’s, 4’s, and 5’s.
Here are the total numbers from   http://www.spc.noaa....nthly/newm.html
Year-Total- # Jan- Feb-Total
2000- 1072 - # 72    .
2001- 1219 - #  33   
2002-  938 -  # 5   
2003- 1374-  # 18   
2004- 1820 -  #  9   
2005-  1262 - # 42  
2006 - 1117 - # 59
2007 – 1102 - # 78
2008 – 1685- # 23
2009 -  1305- # 55
2010 -  1543 - # 42
2011 -   1894 - # 71
2012 - -- ?------- # 170 up to today
  

With the exception of 2002, the total average has increased since 2000.  Also 2008 was a much heavier year for tornado’s in January and February.  I think it is important to point out that in 2001 and 2002 there were an exceptional number of volcanic eruptions.  This affected worldwide weather.
Likewise 2008 is on record as an exceptionally hot year. Likewise the numbers of EF 3, 4 & 5 have increased since 2002.
Well it seems to me the climatologists got it right again.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 05:33 PM

View Posttri-n-b-helpful, on 03 March 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:

A little late for this one. Three-quarters of the state of New South Wales is either under water now or is expected to be very soon. This flooding has never been seen before in terms of flood levels and duration. The town of Broken Hill had a year’s annual rainfall in three days recently. Towns and cities that haven't been flooded before are being flooded now. Victoria is currently being flooded, Queensland's south was being flooded a few weeks ago - same places as before plus a few more. Western Sydney's dam has just tipped its load - and more's a coming. Bushfires in Western Australia's south and the same flooding in the north. Earthquakes (still!) in Christchurch, New Zealand. New Zealanders have been arriving here permanently at the rate of 1000 a month ever since the earthquakes started, maybe a year ago now. Forced evacuations in both New South Wales and some parts of Victoria.

Climate change not happening? Well, something's going on!
Sorry to hear that. We get so caught up in our own American problems sometimes, we forgot that
other countries are getting the brunt of climate change too.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 01:16 PM

View PostShortpoet-GTD, on 03 March 2012 - 05:33 PM, said:

Sorry to hear that. We get so caught up in our own American problems sometimes, we forgot that
other countries are getting the brunt of climate change too.

I think we can handle this one - we'll call in your Marines if it gets too bad! :wink: Air lifting a few million sheep and cattle are one of our biggest problems. I'd rather "the big wet" than tornados ripping up the place, but either way, everything still needs to be re-built afterwards. The problem is the cost, and with the world economy the way it is, well...

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 06:56 PM

View Posttri-n-b-helpful, on 03 March 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:

A little late for this one. Three-quarters of the state of New South Wales is either under water now or is expected to be very soon. This flooding has never been seen before in terms of flood levels and duration. The town of Broken Hill had a year’s annual rainfall in three days recently. Towns and cities that haven't been flooded before are being flooded now. Victoria is currently being flooded, Queensland's south was being flooded a few weeks ago - same places as before plus a few more. Western Sydney's dam has just tipped its load - and more's a coming. Bushfires in Western Australia's south and the same flooding in the north. Earthquakes (still!) in Christchurch, New Zealand. New Zealanders have been arriving here permanently at the rate of 1000 a month ever since the earthquakes started, maybe a year ago now. Forced evacuations in both New South Wales and some parts of Victoria.

Climate change not happening? Well, something's going on!

That's crazy insane and if it isn't an indication of climate change, I don't know what is. No place on the planet is immune to natural climate related disasters. I haven't seen much of this on the news though - we don't spend much time looking at the rest of the world in our media here... :wacko:

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:55 PM

Hot enough for tornadoes.
Then-
cold enough for snow.
Talk about global weirding! Those poor folks in Kentucky/Indiana were hit with a double whammy.
http://beta.weather....nday_2012-03-05

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 04:05 PM

Yes, the weather really seems to be going crazy. In southern Spain, we'd had the mildest winter for years - until the middle of February, when we were sunbathing one day and shivering the next. Now we're back to temperatures in the high 20s. I thought it was only England that had whimsical weather, but it seems that it happens all over.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 12:52 PM

Here is a link, (that most won't care about) but it shows the average data stats for the Amarillo area.
I include it only to show that we are (or used to be, I should say) in the 30's to 60's range for the month
of March.
http://weatherspark....s-United-States
But now, the weather folks are talking about high 70's-mid 80's for the next few weeks. For March?

It's going to be a loooooooooong hot summer. :sweat:

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 03:22 PM

We did get a couple of colder days this winter but overall we have had quite a mild winter.  I am worried the bugs will be horrible this year!
All this week coming up is supposed to be close to 70 and is above average for March.  It is a bit crazy.
Shortpoet, I am worried about the heat this summer too.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 05:15 AM

"The warm winter season is giving way to an even warmer early spring, with record temps spreading throughout
the U.S. east of the Rocky Mountains this week.
So far this month, there have already been 805 record-high temperatures in the U.S.
In a long-term trend that has been linked to global climate change, daily record-high temperatures are now
outpacing daily record-lows records by an average of 2 to 1, and this imbalance is expected to grow as temperatures
continue to warm."
http://thinkprogress...res-eastern-us/

"Kudos to ABC for talking to a climate scientist and explaining how warming drives the extreme weather we’re seeing."
http://thinkprogress...global-warming/

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:31 AM

View PostShortpoet-GTD, on 13 March 2012 - 05:15 AM, said:

"The warm winter season is giving way to an even warmer early spring, with record temps spreading throughout
the U.S. east of the Rocky Mountains this week.
So far this month, there have already been 805 record-high temperatures in the U.S.
In a long-term trend that has been linked to global climate change, daily record-high temperatures are now
outpacing daily record-lows records by an average of 2 to 1, and this imbalance is expected to grow as temperatures
continue to warm."

Yes -- IMBALANCE is NOT our friend.

Yes, that sounds similar to what’s going on here in CT. Our miserable (although close to normal) weather last week has weirded into an unseasonably warm week. We’ll run from 41-65, and may hit 72 today.

Normally there would/should be snow on the ground and in the forecast. There ain’t. This is sooooo bad for wild CT -- it throws everything in the natural world completely out of whack.

The trees and plants all know that they have a very short growing season here. So at the first sign of warm weather breaking, they “spring” into action and begin producing new growth -- which is probably too early.

The birds and animals also know that the warm season for breeding and raising of their young is typically a very short time. They respond to the warm snap by quickly breeding -- which is probably too early.

It’s likely we’ll get a surprise cold snap and even a snow storm or blizzard between now and Memorial Day -- which marks the start of planting season here.

What that means to the plants is that the hurry-up tender new growth will be killed, with the parent plant being either severely damaged or killed itself.

Too-early baby birds and small mammals will be exposed to brutal temperatures that their parents may or may not be able to protect them from. Another example is the deer population. While I’m not crazy about the pests, they can be used to gauge the overall health of an ecosystem. Does will conceive and deliver fawns too early in the year. They babies will still be too young to survive on their own when hunting season arrives, and many will be orphaned to die without their mothers.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 04:12 PM

Birds, insects-hell, even plants are migrating to new territories because of the changing climate.
And us humans are too stupid to take a lesson from nature.
We should wake up to the fact that migration patterns are changing in many animal species, or
they're leaving the "ole' homestead" for good.
Kansas will get very crowded very quickly.

Hello? Anyone listening?
Oh that's right. No one in the gop/main stream media/right wing thinkers would read this left wing,
commie website ravings anyway; I forgot. :wacko:  
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 06:44 PM

View PostShortpoet-GTD, on 13 March 2012 - 04:12 PM, said:

Birds, insects-hell, even plants are migrating to new territories because of the changing climate.
And us humans are too stupid to take a lesson from nature.
We should wake up to the fact that migration patterns are changing in many animal species, or
they're leaving the "ole' homestead" for good.
Kansas will get very crowded very quickly.

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We have had some very strange bugs in the last couple years.  I mean bugs that I have never seen or heard of.  We also had one heck of a bug population last year.  We took the girls to the park last week and already had a ton of bugs by the river.  This just never happened here! It is usually still cool or cold now and it was 73 today.  Crazy!

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 04:26 AM

View Postdconklin, on 13 March 2012 - 06:44 PM, said:

We have had some very strange bugs in the last couple years.  I mean bugs that I have never seen or heard of.  We also had one heck of a bug population last year.  We took the girls to the park last week and already had a ton of bugs by the river.  This just never happened here! It is usually still cool or cold now and it was 73 today.  Crazy!
With milder winters, that will happen more and more. Hard freezes for days/weeks are essential in keeping
insect populations in check. It kills off the eggs underground. Without it, more and more survive and breed.
And more insects are migrating to new territories because of the warmer winter temps.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:31 AM

View PostShortpoet-GTD, on 14 March 2012 - 04:26 AM, said:

With milder winters, that will happen more and more. Hard freezes for days/weeks are essential in keeping
insect populations in check. It kills off the eggs underground. Without it, more and more survive and breed.
And more insects are migrating to new territories because of the warmer winter temps.

Yeah I am worried about the flea population too.  We have so many wild cats in the neighbor hood that it is ridiculous.  Too many people abandoned their cats :(  It is strange because the fleas were tough buggers to get rid of (and I still have flea eggs all over my yard I am sure.)  The vet said that everything they have given to animals didn't seem to work this time around.

We did see an increase in spiders (some really strange ones too) and I usually have at least 5 or 6 spiders on my back deck in on the outside of my windows by the deck.  I leave them be, they keep the bugs out of the house!  

Crops are going to be a little rough too.  We barely had any snow and what little we had melted within a day.

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